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mtgade wrote:ATVlessinMN wrote:Your looking at new or used? The CVT belt system on most quads is very tough and works very well. I'm not a huge fan of the kawasaki or polaris ones however for low speed work conditions. Have had some belt issues when pushed hard. If your looking at new I suggest the the Suzuki kingquad, Yamaha Grizzly or Arctic cat (450-700CC)
Used I like the Arctic cat 500 or 650 from 05-07. The had a stiff suspension, giant steel racks with many attachments available and a 2in receiver hitch for towing.
If your on a tight budget then I like GreyGrizz's list of ATV's. One of the problems that I have seen with the Cats is the Frames are weak did they ever improve that. Another major manufacturer has some severe frame issues also. Can't remember the name. Care to enlighten us mtgade?
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Your right Can Am has had some frame problems also but Can AM problems are usually caused buy hitting a rock with the frame. Where the Cats that I have seen just brake in half.Another problem with the Cats is if you have to ride them very far.
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mtgade wrote:Your right Can Am has had some frame problems also but Can AM problems are usually caused buy hitting a rock with the frame. Where the Cats that I have seen just brake in half.Another problem with the Cats is if you have to ride them very far. Bear, you wouldn't happen to have any pictures, of these Arctic Cats broken in half, would you? Dirt Wheel's latest test of the big bores rated the Can-Am's very well. But, they said torque flex was a major problem on the 800,caused by the massive power, of the engine, it actually pushes the machine, and overloads the suspension, in hard cornering. They rated the 650 as a better handling machine, because of less torque flex. Knowing this, how do you think the single spar frame would hold up for heavy work applications? Any exaggerated flexing of metal, causes fatigue, and fatigue leads to failure. So do you think the Can-Am's frames can hold up to heavy work applications, when you already stated they can fail on the trail, by hitting a rock?
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I tried to post a Picture but something went wrong but if you go to my Utube you can fined it.
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Thank you This was a 05 650 Vee twin owned by a retired man and the other one was a 06 Vee twin also.I haven't seen any later ones brake so maybe they fixed the problem.
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Hey Bruce! Why the new screen name? Did you forget your old 123kawi password?
Thats right folks, the Bear is back.
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2005 Suzuki King Quad, Yellow, also bone stock.
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GreyGrizz wrote:ATVlessinMN wrote:Your looking at new or used? The CVT belt system on most quads is very tough and works very well. I'm not a huge fan of the kawasaki or polaris ones however for low speed work conditions. Have had some belt issues when pushed hard. If your looking at new I suggest the the Suzuki kingquad, Yamaha Grizzly or Arctic cat (450-700CC)
Used I like the Arctic cat 500 or 650 from 05-07. The had a stiff suspension, giant steel racks with many attachments available and a 2in receiver hitch for towing.
If your on a tight budget then I like GreyGrizz's list of ATV's. I do agree with with you as far as the CVT drive system being tough and reliable for general purposes. And they do hold their own performing work. Even though most have low range, they still don't have the gear reduction of a conventional transmission. This causes the engine to work harder in some applications. I'll give you an example: My first quad was a 03 Yamaha Big Bear 400. I used it for work on the property, pulling trailers, plowing snow, etc. The hardest work involved pulling an eight disk harrow around on a two acre food plot we have. The Big Bear 400 was air cooled, but could drag it around for hours, with no problem. Kept it in the granny low 1st and about 1/3 throttle. In 05 I bought my Grizzly, and now pull the same implement with it. Now the Grizzly pulls it fine, but, the engine is revving much higher,(even in low-range) just to get in a good torque range, and the ground speed is a little faster. This results in the temperature light coming on after about a half hour. Sorry for the ramble, but my point is: even though the Grizzly has a much stronger engine, and is liquid cooled; the air cooled smaller cc engined, semi auto Big Bear, transfers power more efficiently to the ground, than the Grizzly, in this particular application. That's why I prefer geared transmissions on work quads. I love the Grizzly as a trail machine, but for work, I'd go back to the Bear, in a heartbeat.
I'll second all of this. When it comes to grunt work, I'll take the geared transmissions any day.
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