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Posted: 08/04/09 06:04am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The number one rule,is to never pull a gun,if you have any doubt about the outcome( shooting an intruder).If the intruder is in your doorway or inside yourhome,identify friend or foe,then use appropriate action.Once some one breaks and enters your home or business,the rules have changed.


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ks_raptor660R wrote:

Remember, if there is ever a home invasion, most states have a law along the lines that you can use no more force against them than they are against you. For example, if BG has a baseball bat, you can't just shoot him. You have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was there with the intent to inflict serious bodily harm on you or a family member.


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Posted: 08/04/09 06:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

TT you have a good point, I know my state preserves the right of domain intrusion to the domain owner.WE had a case several years ago,when a burgler was racing away from a victims home with the stolen goods,when the owner shot several rounds into the fleeing vehicle,and subsequently killed the felon,and after an investigation,no charges were filed,some do gooders tried to raise an issue,but were shouted down.I guess we are too law abiding....as for as my home furnishings being worth some ones life,so be it!I believe in protecting your property.

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Posted: 08/04/09 06:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My philosophy is, if you are in my home uninvited, you are taking you life in your hands. Make any move that looks threatening and you are dead. Run for the door and you are dead. Do not obey my commands and you are dead. Only total and instant submission will keep me from pulling the trigger. Too many people get killed every year by trying to be good, law abiding citizens.

A state patrolman friend of the family once told me if I ever have to shoot a house breaker or attacker, shoot to kill. Dead house breakers tell no lies.



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Kansas just recently repealed a law that basically said "Flee before Fight." I'm glad they did. As a homeowner there is no reason we should flee an intruder. We work hard for what we have in life (most of us), and to simply up and flee an intruder makes no sense whatsoever. I refuse to give up everything I've worked so hard for. I'm not going to sit back and watch.

I would love to find myself a .45 Long Colt revolver for dedicated HD use. It'd be nice to not have to worry about spring fatigue and jamming (though my 1911 has never failed to feed, save for when I tried steel cased Blazer rounds, which are JUNK). Thinking heavily about a Ruger Vaquero or Blackhawk.


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The Blackhawk is a good choice. I have one I bought in 1977 in 357. With a good handload it will shoot 1" 25 yard groups. Never any type of failure in them, and not too may autos will match the grouping unless fine tuned at considerable costs.

England has an even more stupid law - they demand you not to even confront an intruder. Hide and let them ransack your home, that is the law. Many English have been prosecuted and sued because they confronted and injured a home invader. I even heard about a 90 year old man who shot (not killed) an invader, spent the rest of his life in prison (which wasn't very long), and the robber ended up with his entire estate. Talk about a criminal oriented society. But hey, that is Socialism. This is where the Democrats are leading us, folks.

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WoodsRuner wrote:

The Blackhawk is a good choice. I have one I bought in 1977 in 357. With a good handload it will shoot 1" 25 yard groups. Never any type of failure in them, and not too may autos will match the grouping unless fine tuned at considerable costs.

England has an even more stupid law - they demand you not to even confront an intruder. Hide and let them ransack your home, that is the law. Many English have been prosecuted and sued because they confronted and injured a home invader. I even heard about a 90 year old man who shot (not killed) an invader, spent the rest of his life in prison (which wasn't very long), and the robber ended up with his entire estate. Talk about a criminal oriented society. But hey, that is Socialism. This is where the Democrats are leading us, folks.
Australia also followed suit with their interpretation of the perverse British gun laws. In fact their female UN ambassador, whose name escapes me, recently stated: "This is a triumph, for international gun reform. Eventually all Americans will have to surrender their firearms,as did my fellow Australians, and fall into the guidelines of the United Nations." F.U. douchbag, as Charlton Heston stated: From my cold dead hands!" Woodsi is right, this is our future, if we don't act now.




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Posted: 08/05/09 06:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

GreyGrizz wrote:

WoodsRuner wrote:

The Blackhawk is a good choice. I have one I bought in 1977 in 357. With a good handload it will shoot 1" 25 yard groups. Never any type of failure in them, and not too may autos will match the grouping unless fine tuned at considerable costs.

England has an even more stupid law - they demand you not to even confront an intruder. Hide and let them ransack your home, that is the law. Many English have been prosecuted and sued because they confronted and injured a home invader. I even heard about a 90 year old man who shot (not killed) an invader, spent the rest of his life in prison (which wasn't very long), and the robber ended up with his entire estate. Talk about a criminal oriented society. But hey, that is Socialism. This is where the Democrats are leading us, folks.
Australia also followed suit with their interpretation of the perverse British gun laws. In fact their female UN ambassador, whose name escapes me, recently stated: "This is a triumph, for international gun reform. Eventually all Americans will have to surrender their firearms,as did my fellow Australians, and fall into the guidelines of the United Nations." F.U. douchbag, as Charlton Heston stated: From my cold dead hands!" Woodsi is right, this is our future, if we don't act now.
Dam! Grizz,that gal got you upset!.....I don't think Americans are gonna roll over on gun control,just remember ,we sent "Quigley" down under........

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Posted: 08/05/09 08:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Trouble is willy, the Dems are gonna try to sneak it into another bill. One that must be passed "with great urgency", and no one will have time to read it. Just like the "stimulus" bill (proper name: porkulus bill).

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I think the American people now see who Obama is.... and his socialist agenda..Congress is being asked to accept the same health care as their constituents,even Criss (liar) Dodd, relucktently said he would..

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