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Hey thanks! I appreciate that.
Noticed the subs...those are monsters. they are not "stock" either. I'm flat from 18Hz to 78Hz with room correction.
Yeah..yeah..I hear ya on the Blu Ray. I'm kind of boycotting that for now. HD-DVD was a far superior format and still is. Sony just has deeper pockets. I'm not a Sony supporter because of what they have done with each and every new format advancement. They've done nothing but confuse the market and slow down advancement, IMHO. Beta vs. VHS (granted Beta was superior), MiniDisk, vs. CD, SACD vs. DVD-A (two awesome formats that seriously out perform CD, but thanks to Sony, neither could get off the ground due to hte confusion and equipment incompatibility), HD-DVD vs. BluRay...thanks, again, Sony.
Sony won the format war with with an inferior technology. Damn friggin shame. Eventually I'll jump on the bandwagon, but for now..I'll sit back and let them not enjoy my money. I know I'm missing out, but thankfully the the Toshiba HD-DVD player is one of the best upconverting players on the market, so..that helps. Currently the PS3 is the reference BluRay player so I may pick on up if/when they drop the price. The Sony stand alone is a good player, too. Good find for $200. That's a deal.
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princevaliant1975
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Reading this I have to disagree on the VHS vs. Beta format as for the reasoning behind VHS winning that battle is predominately because of the porno home video market. VHS=Cheaper thus it is/was rare to find porno on Beta thus the whole video media market shifted the VHS direction. Remember the Laser disc players? Not sure why that didn't catch on as a "high end" format back in the day.
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Nothing to really disagree with, prince. I didn't really state why one won over the other. The issue is that the Beta format was brought out by Sony. It confused the market when trying to compete with VHS. It was also a superior format to VHS. My issue is every time a new and better format comes out, Sony brings out something against it causing mass confusion.
Porn also sided with HD-DVD, but that didn't allow HD-DVD to win, unfortunately. However, the real main reason VHS won was because of VHS's longer tape time and less strict licensing agreements vs. Beta.
Laser disk did take off as the high end. It's very well known and was very well received in the industry, but that's a niche market. It didn't take off mass market because of the price. It was actually a little ahead of it's time. It did however help pave the way for DVD.
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princevaliant1975
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Oh I totally agree Beta was a far superior format to VHS for technical reasons. Similarly with CRo2 cassette tapes. Anyways I think the Internet hath killed the HD-DVD video porn star. Not following the media industry as closely as you (being your in the biz) I have always been intrigued by Sony's business decisions regarding proprietorial media formats. I am kinda wondering what the 20 year future of media formatting will look like with all this DRM technology and politics. It makes for some interesting discussion.
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yeah, I think you're right about the HD DVD porn star. Boy..Jenna in glorious HD..hmmmm..sounds nice.
yeah, brother, you and me both wonder what the next 20 years will bring. It will either be super badazz or be fuged because of the DRM. It's all about greed. Shame.
Honestly..I think BluRay has limited days, too. The next generation is going to be downloads. It's early in developement now. Oh, sure, it's here..but not here in full HD with full 7.1 uncompressed sound, ect ect. I think within the next 3-5 years it will be a little box capable of 3-5 terabytes and simply download whatever movie..new release..whatever in HD, full audio, store it right on top and watch it when you want to. They'll prob limit it the time for storage, maybe pay more and keep it forever, but that is the next generation I see coming. Not too distant in the future either. That will offer hte next step for movies, music, gaming, ect. BUT..people are going to spend a fortune in rebuilding their DVD library with Blu-Ray and then get hit with this so it may not be adopted as early as it could be. I do wish more would hold out for Blu-Ray..if nothing else out of spite.  The future of high quality video and audio hasn't yet arrived. Blu-Ray ain't it.
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Your probably close to the mark on what the future of media might be. I think we will still keep getting closer to Star Trek TNG's idea of being immersed in easily accessed media. I think we are kinda there with introduction of .wav .mp3 .mpeg, quicktime and similar formats that took off in the 90's. I would venture to bet eventually it will be all interconnected at some point, although DRM will throw wrenches in the development and compatibly of not only software but hardware.
I always thought these two videos were clever showing the simplified idea behind DRM.
A Real World DRM
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yeah..we are even closer with the xbox360. You can now download movies from and to your xbox via netflix. we are so close..
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THEMAN wrote:Zigafool, wassup?!
For that kind of lighting condition you'll want a bright tv. Plasma is likely going to be your best bet. For $2300 MSRP the 50" Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ85U is a great set. Can prob find it a little under your price point on sale. Got great reviews in the Oct 2008 Home Theater test. 50" is a good size for the distance you'll be sitting. For the money, you'll be hard pressed to find a better performing TV. It's up there with the Pio Kuro. Not quite there, but close.
As far as DLP, right now you can't get a better deal. I saw at a local store a 73" Mitsubishi for $1699 on Black Friday. Killer set at a KILLER price. Now the downside to dlp is the color wheel and hte bulb. Some can see rainbow effects from the color wheel and the bulb will need to be replaced every couple of years or so at $300 a pop. I also keep hearing that DLP technology is going away. People want flat screens. LED DLP technology and other versions of DLP look promising, but they aren't cheap and the technology isn't proven nor perfected yet. IMO, I'd grab a DLP. Can't touch the screen size for price right now. They do have a little more maintenance with the bulb and not quite as brights as plasma or LCD and doesn't have quite the viewing angle of plasma. However, if you can somewhat control the light in the room or just live with it, there isn't a better deal right now. WIll DLP go away soon? I dunno..
Been real busy this year so my riding the King has been few and far between add in deer season and a new house well riding got kicked to the side for now.
As for the DLP I had been worried about it going away with so few selling so Ill stay away from that but agree 100% they are huge in size for the money.
I thought that Plasma was bad for a bright room?
Im checking into the one you mentioned Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ85U
Ill get back with you.
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Plasma is the best choice for a bright room. The issue you can run into, though, is reflection off the glossy screen.
Hey, the way I see it..I don't care if it may go away..as long as it still has the warranty and parts will be avialable for a few years, go for it.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying LCD is junk. Just compared to the current technologies it isn't as good. BUT..there are some very good performing LCD sets. Just be aware of the internal scalers, motion blur for sports and video games, stuff like that.
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THEMAN wrote:yeah, I think you're right about the HD DVD porn star. Boy..Jenna in glorious HD..hmmmm..sounds nice.
You can see all her Herp....couldnt see that in standard definition.
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